tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29718807.post1668947427688054659..comments2023-06-26T11:23:50.414+01:00Comments on Black, Woman and Winning!: 12 years a slave and other thingsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29718807.post-49414030624753837992014-04-13T22:30:01.526+01:002014-04-13T22:30:01.526+01:00And it's not just AA's this has been happe...And it's not just AA's this has been happening with White American actors for years. Learn about the old Hollywood system and you'll learn that not everyone was American playing Americans nor was everyone an American producer, writer, director etc.Welcomehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06873814449216446881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29718807.post-39520715533150580272014-02-12T21:56:52.686+00:002014-02-12T21:56:52.686+00:00Are you sure South Africans didn't support Idr...Are you sure South Africans didn't support Idris and Naoemie playing the Mandelas? Because the family did, including Nelson Mandela personally? And TYAS hasn't made a huge profit and had a limited theater run. Especially compared to a movie like Django Unchained. And now this new hideous release Ride Along. It was a niche film at best, but admittedly it has received a lot of press. The actors worked for scale and maybe some backend, but it had a small budget compared to a typical movie as well. Still, the conversation about support and who merits it and who benefits from it is always a worthy one.Faithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07848026271448646032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29718807.post-40262569688295860422014-02-06T00:07:56.312+00:002014-02-06T00:07:56.312+00:00@Patricia Kayden:
We can disagree but I just want...@Patricia Kayden:<br /><br />We can disagree but I just want to clarify that my point was never about cultural division. I'm concerned about the money trail, and I think other cultures are, too. When AAs play other cultures in film, sure, there's support, but it's never on a fanatic level. E.g. South Africans did not go out in large numbers to put their dollars behind Denzel Washington, Morgan Freeman or even Idris Elba - on the other hand, the people behind 12Years are set to become very wealthy and recognized largely thanks to mass AA support. I don't think that's fair to AAs. E.N.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10542049556012294019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29718807.post-61261688458487553372014-02-03T23:11:14.569+00:002014-02-03T23:11:14.569+00:00@E.N.
I have no problem with Lupito's success...@E.N.<br /><br />I have no problem with Lupito's success based on her playing an African American woman. By the way, how do we know that Patsy (the enslaved woman played by Lupito) wasn't African herself or didn't consider herself to be African?<br /><br />But you are entitled to your opinion. I just don't care about issues like that. When Jill Scott played a Botswanian (spelling?) detective, I was thrilled for her. I never gave it a thought that she was another African American woman playing the role of an African woman. **Shrugs.**Patricia Kaydenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07836381858165025496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29718807.post-16192749532679485302014-02-03T11:44:43.581+00:002014-02-03T11:44:43.581+00:00Apologies Halima but with your permission, this li...Apologies Halima but with your permission, this link talks about what I mentioned above earlier also:<br /><br />http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1142824/Nazi-women-exposed-bit-bad-Hitlers-deranged-male-followers.html akhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01821918420194865921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29718807.post-17671952388707159912014-02-03T03:10:47.402+00:002014-02-03T03:10:47.402+00:00@Patricia Kayden:
I'm not upset, but I think ...@Patricia Kayden:<br /><br />I'm not upset, but I think it's telling that when African-Americans have played notable African characters, those African communities did not support those films in droves. <br />For example, South Africans did not rally in numerous support of Denzel Washington playing Steve Biko. <br />On the flipside, there's an almost fanatic media fever surrounding Lupita Nyong'o, who is an amazing actress without doubt - but the black community propelling her to fame is not benefitting in any way from seeing her success off of an AA story. <br />Does that make sense? E.N.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10542049556012294019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29718807.post-50790654263238065872014-02-03T00:06:41.507+00:002014-02-03T00:06:41.507+00:00Other situations and issues about white women'...Other situations and issues about white women's roles in certain people's oppression are coming to the light too now Halima.<br /><br />I have read recently about more truth coming to light about women who worked for the Nazi party and their own first hand physical cruelty and cruel order-giving against Jews in concentration camps. <br /><br />I'm surprised that Jews on a whole didn't lift the lid on the roles of the women who were openly against them from a long time ago since they've been so vigilant against anti-semitism since the Nuremberg trials I mean look how they ruined Galliano's reputation not that long ago. But on TV in the UK they've been showing documentary shows of interviews of some Jewish Holocaust survivors who have said what they've witnessed or what they'd said fellow survivors alongside them had witnessed about women working for the Nazis and their inhuman cruelty.<br /><br />One old male Holocaust survivor said that he saw one Nazi woman take a two year old Jewish baby by the feet and swung the baby around to bash its head up against the wall repeatedly. And other interviewed Holocaust survivors had similar stories. I think only one Nazi woman was put to death after WWII anyway , a big-boned ugly 22 year old one who was known for having hideous behaviour towards those trapped in the camp she worked in.<br /><br />There's even been another UK TV show where they interviewed the children and grandchildren of Hitler's head henchmen and their wives and what they'd said about their mothers or grandmothers was quite eye-opening. One woman who was the daughter of I think Amon Goeth said that when she was 14 she asked her mother about Goeth who had already been executed a long time ago by that time and she said her mother took the cord out of some old broken lamp and beat her with it out in the yard because she was tired of her daughter's questions about her own father. And a man who was the son of another henchman said his mother was as cold, distant, unfeeling and ungiving as his father was and he had no nice memories of any nice conversations, etc with either of them at all.akhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01821918420194865921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29718807.post-2390266204015610302014-02-02T23:43:17.374+00:002014-02-02T23:43:17.374+00:00The more liberal whites and white feminists HAVE s...The more liberal whites and white feminists HAVE succeeded along with the assistance of a lot of black people in making life a cakewalk for black men TODAY. Rome wasn't built in a day as the saying goes so of course that goal and its results weren't yet apparent and visible back in the 50s and 60s but that cakewalk has been achieved from back a while ago now.akhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01821918420194865921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29718807.post-7122946972449926012014-01-31T21:32:16.032+00:002014-01-31T21:32:16.032+00:00Your article was mostly accurate except your state...Your article was mostly accurate except your statement about white liberals making life a cakewalk for black men. I know it was equally hard on all of us so don't sit here and act like we had it easy our nuts got cut off and shoved in our mouth! In the early to mid 50s.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29718807.post-9966807459739009192014-01-28T19:10:21.552+00:002014-01-28T19:10:21.552+00:00@E.N.
Are you also upset when African American ...@E.N. <br /><br />Are you also upset when African American actors play roles of non-African Americans? Several African Americans have played Nelson/Winnie Mandela. In the movie COOL RUNNINGS, three out of the four Jamaican bobsledders were played by African Americans.<br /><br />I'm cool with the casting of 12 YEARS A SLAVE and very glad that it's done so well, not only in the U.S. but also apparently in Europe.<br /><br />Go Steve McQueen. I've watched SHAME but need to watch his other movie about the Irish hunger strikers. Deep man.Patricia Kaydenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07836381858165025496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29718807.post-90238436252073036662014-01-26T15:58:58.636+00:002014-01-26T15:58:58.636+00:00The movie was incredible and your review is spot o...The movie was incredible and your review is spot on!Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17006472023687698394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29718807.post-36903097124458670232014-01-25T03:29:48.380+00:002014-01-25T03:29:48.380+00:00Welcome again Halima. I love your blog and love th...Welcome again Halima. I love your blog and love the strenght and spirituality of BW too. The movie is a must-see and Lupita is sooooo beautiful.<br /><br />Greetings and my best wishes from Spain.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29718807.post-71373199314225991142014-01-23T14:35:32.832+00:002014-01-23T14:35:32.832+00:00Thank you for this well-written post, Halima. My s...Thank you for this well-written post, Halima. My spirit cannot endure seeing BW being mistreated on screen, but I am relieved that Steve McQueen has chosen to give this accurate portrayal of BW during slavery. Mrs. Glamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07612992031340589106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29718807.post-22757142933468065972014-01-22T23:19:07.134+00:002014-01-22T23:19:07.134+00:00Thank you for writing this!! I really didn't w...Thank you for writing this!! I really didn't want to put my money behind 'yet another slave movie making black women look like the toilet of the world' ... but I'll give it a try based on this review. If it evoked empathy from the masses, I think Mr. McQueen must have come through for BW.<br />It still doesn't sit right with me, however, that:<br />- though Lupita is beautiful and talented, she was selected to play a role that an African American actress should have been considered for<br />- as far as I know, there are no major roles given to AA women in the film, 'light skinned' or not<br />I'll give the movie a shot, try it out for free online, and if it's good I'll support in theatres.<br />E.N.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10542049556012294019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29718807.post-36551854456467173572014-01-17T02:39:36.377+00:002014-01-17T02:39:36.377+00:00Thanks for this! What I'm loving is seeing Lup...Thanks for this! What I'm loving is seeing Lupita slay the red carpet. She just got a fashion contract with Miu Miu and I hope she teams with people to create projects and not just wait for things to happen.Faithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07848026271448646032noreply@blogger.com