Sunday, July 25, 2010

Jailed Black men have the highest marriage rates!

Cindy Blackman, Carlos Santana's new Fiancee (best know for drumming for Lenny Kravitz)

Well folks another black woman has been killed in a fight over a jailed man. This time in a high speed car chase. A few years ago there was a similar sad incident involving black women fighting over a black man who was in prison resulting in the death of I believe, a pregnant black woman.

Fancy that folks, the way these women are fighting over jail birds, you would think these men were Saudi princes with billions to their name, not some guy who is very possibly dependent on them or at least leaning heavily on them for support and upkeep while behind bars. Imagine the drain on finance and on emotions for a woman in such a relatioship!  CONTD After the JUMP


Attention Attention Aimee has a new Post!
SNIPPETS OF AIMEES POST.... his chapter headings suggest (“Soiled”; “Media: Hollywood, Phillis, and Halle”; “Black Women are Gold Diggers”; “Sisters Have an Attitude”), facing the significance and practical implications of their love of whiteness is difficult for many black men. Instead, these emotions are channeled into loathing of black women, which is justified by cataloging black women’s myriad “shortcomings.” This allows black men to claim to be proud and self-loving, while simultaneously adoring and esteeming all things white.

SNIPPETS OF AIMEES POST.... ...They may not have gained real access to equal work, equal pay, equal wealth or equal opportunity; but black men have gained access to the bodies of white women. In the face of so many losses, possessing a white or non-black woman feels like a sufficient win for many black men. Thus, black men embrace the pornified Big Black Brute role that at least grants them psychological dominion over women in search of titillation and sexual adventurism--all while the “community” languishes....

SNIPPETS OF AIMEES POST.... ....But racio-misogyny does not only ensnare and victimize black men. It also controls the hearts and minds of the “loyal opposition,” i.e., brainwashed black women, who play a crucial role in enforcing the “community’s” Anti-Black Woman agenda. It is black women who actively degrade and insult dark-skinned black women while treating light-skinned women with almost worshipful admiration (go to any black “entertainment” website to see examples of the mocking belittlement that the Williams Sisters, Naomi Campbell, Tamika Raymond, Foxy Brown, etc. are subjected to, vs. the unquestioning adoration reserved for Rihanna, Beyonce, Alicia Keys, or the latest “exotic” video vixen/“jumpoff”). It is black women who attack and demean black women who seek child support and active fathering for their children as “gold diggers” and evil nags. It is black women who denigrate unwed black mothers for their OOW childbearing, as if such women conceive through the process of Immaculate Conception. It is black women who attack black women who date/marry interracially, while defending the interracial mating prerogatives of black men. Thus, we witness the sad and bizarre spectacle of black women (most of whom are not and never will be married), living vicariously through morally questionable white women like Kim and Khloe Kardashian, Kendra Baskett, Nicole “Coco” Austin, and Vanessa Bryant, based solely on these women’s relationships with black men.

SNIPPETS OF AIMEES POST.... It is absolutely crucial for black women who want the healthy, happy lives that they deserve to recognize that the very foundation of the currently formulated black community is constructed around the devaluation of black women and children. It is no more and no less. Loyalty to this community requires disloyalty to your own well-being and your very survival as black women. This is not simply a matter of who you date or marry, though one’s choice of mate is a crucial factor in the ability to escape this quagmire. The same caution and discretion must be exercised in one’s choice of friends, acquaintances, neighbors, business and professional colleagues, and even those members of your family who you choose to include in your life. Detaching from this dysfunctional, pathological community must be job one!
go here for the full entry



Halima's article CONTD here
I guess I now understand why at the beginning of the year there were all these highly eductaed and high achieving black women demanding that the government open the prison gates and release black jail birds to their warm embrace! Apparently these women are only just catching up on the trend that has been in place for some time now, because according to this study, the only segement of black men increasing their marriage rates are those in prison! (Thanks Felicia for the research)

Lawdy Lawdy!

The Black Community has so totally screwed with black women's mentality, that now incacerated black men are a prize to be had. Indeed while other women go after men who can provide for them, black women are digging in the gutters for men who will no doubt be a mighty drain on their resources and with a high probability of passing on to them an incurable disease!

But then again, I am not suprised that these men are rushing to offer black women the ring (now that they find themselves in the predicament which I am sure is how it works). You see unlike 'wilfully blind to how the game is played' bw, everyone else is looking for the best 'deal.' Because marriage is being 'withhed' by the wider body of black men, it has become a real comodity for bargaining. 

You can from this 'transaction' of a ring in exchange for 'you carryng me financially and bear all the burden for the family alone' 'infer' what the worth of the black woman is ( I am convinced that even the ring and tuxedo and whatever else will be bought by the black woman!). Indeed never mind how it will be spun as black woman doing her bit for the race, her labour of love lol! Its always the simple minded bw who goes to bed with a goofy smile on her face, thinking she has something out of the deal when it is the others that have something tangible to show and she just has...well some nice good feelings to warm her heart. Bless her.

This again is all inl ine with, as I have argued previously, the trend of black men offering minimal towards the efforts to sustain the black family (I have said before that when you tally what the current crop of black men have put towards the whole 'idea' of black uplift and black unity' etc, it is really simply the male gamet or to be blunt sperm!) as well as the rise and the endorsement of any social dynamic in which black women are squeezed of their resources and drained for the use of third parties (resourcing broke down brothas).

We have all heard variants of the saying that when a black man is down and out or looses his fortune, he suddenly remembers 'sistas'. Well I guess this study adds credibility to what was simply a 'saying'


And the truth is black women do actually feel that this is their worth no matter how they try to wrap it up as them doing something 'transcending' and selfless.

Marriage clearly has become black men's commodity, any wonder then they are withholding it and holding out for the best deal, of course all the while claiming they can't marry because of their socio-economic situation and how they 'have it hard' and all that (well that excuse has been shot to pieces given that the black men increasing their marriage rates are on the bottom of the socio-economic scale!).

It is absolutely crucial for black women who want the healthy, happy lives that they deserve to recognize that the very foundation of the currently formulated black community is constructed around the devaluation of black women and children. It is no more and no less. Loyalty to this community requires disloyalty to your own well-being and your very survival as black women - Aimee

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32 comments:

vonnie said...

incredibly disgusting and sad! just...wow...how can you feel so low that a dude in JAIL is your best bet? goodness, look AROUND, there are other men out there for the choosing.

Anonymous said...

There may be other men for the choosing BUT most men today are waiting for the WOMAN to bring high education to the table regardless if he has one or not. I know its really bad because black men are really weird, but all men are not that far behind in this game. Radical white feminists wanted women to make their own money, etc. they didn't realize women like to marry up.

Anonymous said...

It makes me very sad to hear that an innocent woman died. As far as the study...no words.

Anonymous said...

Desperation and hopelessness will lead an otherwise sane woman to stoop to deep lows. I remember a story I read about the famous author Danielle Steele who became involved with a rapist and married him, they eventually divorced a few years later.

What can I say, I understand the utter despair these women feel in their love life and they feel something is better than nothing, a tainted man is better than none. Just as how a starving person will sift through the trash for something to eat, so will a woman starving for love sift through the trash for a morsel. Personally, I couldn't do it. I would be ashamed to bring someone with a criminal record home to my parents. It doesn't help being the eldest and having to set an example for the younger siblings. Perhaps the ladies doing this already have family members who are incarcerated and so they are more open to those men. May God have mercy on their unions.

Nicole Little said...

I feel bad about this situation. May her rest in peace. If this is all the black men that I can get, then I'd rather stay single until I found me a non-black man to be with. I refuse to stoop that low just to find love in the gutter. OMG, I mean, are these sistas THAT desperate for love?

Anonymous said...

Again, the focus of our conversation should be why Black women persist in digging up the pit to find what we're looking for. Let us do the internal psychological work necessary to bring quality to our lives.

Are we going to admit, we in part are responsible for the low status we occupy? Can we stop for a moment with the black man this, the black man that. Are we so hoodwinked? Do we not realise it is within us to stop the madness? Will we live in the matrix forever? Will we let others continue to determine who we are, how much we can have, the lives we can live?

As Evia, Halima and Khadija have repeatedly reminded us our focus should be on QUALITY. Quality relationships, lives, food, employment and so on.

(Sorry for the rant but I feel exasperated this morning. I hope the comment section won't be filled with a catalogue of what low-value Black men are doing. What are WE doing and allowing)


mochachoc

Bellydancer said...

I was too through when The Economist magazine actually recommended that fewer black men be jailed for non violent offences and that that would help the black family and single women now it seems like jailed men have no problem marrying but free, single, working black men have no interest in marrying. Not all jail birds make babies so it must be these brothers running around making it possible. Some of these men aren't thugs so let's not keep blaming the thugs for making OOW children some of these able minded employed brothers are just as bad with birth control.
Ecomimist article:
http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2010/04/sex_and_the_sin.php

Jailed men have an agenda by marrying but can you blame them if you are locked up with no one than you will do what you need to do to get access to what is outside and especially if you are in for awhile or if you face release and homelessness so you befriend some easy hearted woman and milk her for what you can. Check out Christelyn's blog for an example of lunacy regarding what black women need to do for the black prison population SMDH
http://www.beyondblackwhite.com/?p=854
I have had friends marry men who were in jail or on their way to jail and it always ends bad when the men come home and have to deal with being married.
Another thing they do is to try to get you pregnant especially if you are pretty and popular with other men some of these men will have warrants out for their arrest and will literally go on a frenzy trying to hook up with girls for easy sex and or a pregnancy to try to hold the girl to them, she goes along with it cuz he has convinced her it's them against everybody else. It's all so trifling.

Christelyn said...

And to think, these women would rather fight over damaged jailbirds than even CONSIDER jumping over racial lines!

Nicole Little said...

Chrystelyn said...
And to think, these women would rather fight over damaged jailbirds than even CONSIDER jumping over racial lines!


That's the truth! I seen them do that around here! They told me that they will NEVER date outside their race, and they will be a ride-or-die chick FOREVER! These women are lost, and they have low self-esteem.

GoldenAh said...

It's a suicide pact pushed by the black media, churches, and other organizations with their black male worship cult. They love to tell black women they have nowhere to go, and it's their duty to "save our people." You know, cause life is supposedly so easy for black women.

My friend's cousin was murdered by an ex-con. They broke up. She refused to see him, and tried hiding from him with her church friends. Unfortunately, he was waiting for her outside of the church.

The second worst part of this story - because the first are the motherless children - is that the justice system was going to go easy on him and free him on "bail". My friend had to go back to the courts: ensure ex-con stayed locked up without "bail", and for sentencing so he'd be in jail for the rest of his miserable life.

foreverloyal said...

Just when you think it can't get any worse...

Bellydancer said...

You have to be the silliest bitch alive to go up to a jail and to get married after dating a loser who did not want to get married until he went to jail. Some bw need to be locked up until they come to their senses SMDH to think some woman died over a convict that she had nothing to do with.
The mothers of these criminals often co sign to this madness because quiet as it's kept, they are sick of their degenerate offspring and are ready to hand them over to some unsuspecting woman to deal with. That's the real reason why some of them are scared of bw jumping the fence, nobody to care for lil man who won't grow the f**k up!
There was a book written about a black woman who married a bm with AIDS and his family and this man knew and they did not tell this innocent woman what was wrong with him only afterwards did one bw cousin say "I wanted to ask you if you knew and everybody else kept telling me to be quiet" this woman took care of this man and his only remark when he was asked why did he not tell her was "I did not want to be alone and you would have left me if I had told you" this woman literally had to care for this dying man all by herself his family had of course stopped coming around, he literally ran this woman ragged with his demands and constant needs. I would have personally stuck his ass in a hospice and kept stepping since he practically defrauded this woman. SMDH Only bw put up with this mess!

Felicia said...

Ladies (and gents) in the general audience.

I want you all to know that this information is readily accessible to the general public.

A simple Intent search is all that's necessary to find out all of the information contained in these research studies I'm coming across online and sharing with the various BWE (Black Women Empowerment) blogs/websites.

THANKS Halima for sharing this recent find. IMO It's as important as the study I came across that proved WM/BW IR marriages are the strongest and most lasting of all marriages. Interracial OR intraracial.

Both studies are MYTH busters. Because most people would wrongly assume that WM/BW marriages would have the least likelihood of success. And, that black/black marriages (in this case BM criminal/deluded and pitiful BW) regardless of status/income differences would be stronger than WM/BW marriages because of that "shared experience" that black folks love to tout.

Well... it turns out that it's common VAUES and outlooks on life, NOT color/"race" OR a shared history of oppression that makes a marriage strong and lasting.

Although the information contained in this latest study IS embarrassing all around, IMO it NEEDS public exposure so those normal BW still on the fence can see with their own two eyes what the REAL deal is.

Essence, Ebony, Jet, NONE of the black publications will mention this horrid, dangerous, and UNNECESSARY ridiculous situation that BW put themselves in due to indoctrination.

Felicia said...

If the white media discusses it they'll be labeled "racist" by stereotyping black folks as chronically disturbed/out of sink with basic human norms.

Brain dead BW will rush to the defense of these damaged incarcerated BM who've suddenly got the marriage bug, and blame the "evil WM" of scapegoating the po negro male and "assassinating his image". They'll loudly proclaim, my daddy (even though at a 70% single OOW birthrate, most BW don't have fathers), brother, friend, preacher, etc... is a good bm. These DBR BM are the exception. Yada yada...

Basically, this is why this is probably the first time many readers have come across the information found in this study.

We ALL (especially single BW interested in quality marriages) need to continue to dig DEEPER and find out the TRUE facts.

Facts that these devious "black love" proponents WON'T tell.

Readers, whether you share your research findings at the BWE blogs/websites or not, DO IT FOR YOURSELF.

Find out the truth for yourself. And most importantly TRUST YOUR OWN TWO EYES.

Single normal unindoctrinated BW in the listening audience, you KNOW what time it is. And you also know that unlike men, you have a biological time-clock that at some point WILL tick out.

ACT NOW on the information you've gained from ALL of these blogs/websites.

Do it for your own well being and that of your future children.

They will thank you.

Anonymous said...

"The mothers of these criminals often co sign to this madness because quiet as it's kept, they are sick of their degenerate offspring and are ready to hand them over to some unsuspecting woman to deal with. That's the real reason why some of them are scared of bw jumping the fence, nobody to care for lil man who won't grow the f**k up!"

GIRL YOU BETTER PREACH!!!

Felicia said...

"They'll loudly proclaim, my daddy (even though at a 70% single OOW birthrate, most BW don't have fathers), brother, friend, preacher, etc... is a good bm. These DBR BM are the exception. Yada yada..."

FWIW I realize that the 70% OOW birthrate (under in some areas over in others) is a relatively new phenomenon. And that a number of BW DO have active loving and protective black fathers.

What I was getting at is, it's almost a Pavlov's dog response with some BW when it comes to the knee-jerk protectionism and defense they provide RANDOM BM.

THIS is the problem I was pointing to.

It's one thing to protect and support (emotionally) good BM (or good men of any "race" for that matter) who reciprocate that love back.

The problem arises when the love and concern is not returned. Then, it's best to give it to those undamaged men who can appreciate it and return it.

This is called reciprocation and normal human relations.

BW really need to ask themselves what automatic knee-jerk defense have they (or any other BW they know of) received from BM lately.

If the answer is zilch, it doesn't take Rocket Science to know what the next step is...

Khadija said...

Good God, Almighty . . . {shaking my head at the certainty that these stories and statistics will become even more frequent as time goes on}

Halima,

You said, "But then again, I am not suprised that these men are rushing to offer black women the ring (now that they find themselves in the predicament which I am sure is how it works). You see unlike 'wilfully blind to how the game is played' bw, everyone else is looking for the best 'deal.' Because marriage is being 'withhed' by the wider body of black men, it has become a real comodity for bargaining."

Oh, yes. And BM are driving HARSH bargains---only in reference to BW---in exchange for that "marriage chip."

You said, "You can from this 'transaction' of a ring in exchange for 'you carryng me financially and bear all the burden for the family alone' 'infer' what the worth of the black woman is ( I am convinced that even the ring and tuxedo and whatever else will be bought by the black woman!)."

Again, yes. I even recall this phenomena of BW buying their own wedding rings, etc. hitting the Black media "mainstream." IIRC, this came up during a featured financial makeover/advice article in Messence a while back. From what I vaguely recall, the BW getting the financial makeover had a lot of debt---including from the expense of buying her own wedding ring. This was described without any further comment from the financial adviser or anybody else. As if it was normal.

All of which is another example of how Black folks are becoming increasingly as Felicia described when she said: "chronically disturbed/out of sink with basic human norms."

Every normal and sane BW must get clear of these braindead mule-women ASAP. Nothing good comes from associating with lunatics.

Anonymous said...

Sorry to take this off-topic, but I didn't know where to post it: http://www.sescoops.com/wrestling-news/wwe-news/bret-hart-married-over-the-weekend-picture/

Aimee said...

Thank you Halima for (as always) keeping us informed.

Let's face it: if you want "nothing but a black man," prisons and correctional insitutitions are probably some of the best places for you to look. And whats worse: consider the increasing rates of incarceration for BLACK WOMEN: they are a DIRECT result of the "ride or die, down for my ni--a" mentality that is increasingly prevalent in the "community." Now, not only is incarceration commonplace for BM, BW--MOTHERS--are being sent away for getting involved in the ridiculous, incompetent criminal shenanigans of DBRBM. All because of a refusal to detach from a dying and pathological community. And the BW who remain free essentially imprison themselves, moving their families to the remote locations where these prisons are housed, funneling all their meager funds to these males' commissary accounts, paying outrageous telephone bills, cutting themselves off from the opportunity for further education and renumerative employment, abandoning the family members who refuse to fall for the okey-doke, etc. Watch the Investgation Discovery program "Prison Wives."

And for what? Even while in prison these DBR males are as abusive and exploitive as they are when free, and the minute they get out they start acting a straight fool. And what's even more hilarious is that even these black jailbirds prefer white women (in their personal ads the white convicts are adament about wanting white women only, thank GOD!) So many black women are destroying themselves and their families all out of loyalty to a "community" that is rooted in hatred of themselves and their children. Thank God that more and more sisters are waking up!

Felicia said...

You're telling the straight truth Aimee.

The straight truth.

Not to mention what Khadija described when this topic was discussed in her house a while back...

http://sojournerspassport.com/letter-from-a-23rd-century-history-student-to-her-faculty-advisor/#comments

"Felicia,

Wait a minute . . . You mean that the uptick in AA marriages is among The BM Booty Warrior convicts and ex-convicts . . . ?!

Increasing numbers of AA women are marrying BM Booty Warriors? {speechless for a moment}

I thought only AA Muslim women were stupid and deranged enough to do something like that in large numbers. [And since decades of Muslim preaching among BM prisoners has created mosques filled with BM criminals, AA Muslim women are typically encouraged to marry BM felons. Meanwhile, immigrant Muslim women set their sights on marrying the Muslim male doctors and engineers among their ranks. See Prison Da'wa And Marriage to Ex-Cons]

I was channel-surfing the other night and ran across the Boondocks episode about The BM Booty Warriors in prison. Folks who saw that episode might not realize that was based on an actual, living, breathing, creature that had been interviewed during a news show about being locked up (a reader had sent me the link to this video clip several months ago):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-JjldxU-pA

Women who marry Booty Warriors are beyond insane. And it’s a form of insanity that will reach its terminal stage when these women become HIV+ from being intimate with Booty Warriors. The future trend in these news stories about AA women will be all about how they’re dying from AIDs. {shudder} Whatever. That’s their choice. God respects free will, and so do I. Let the dead bury the dead.

The good news is a growing minority of AA women is waking up, seeking husbands in the much healthier global village, and joining the Wendi Dang Murdoch types in securing quality husbands. I’m thinking of the sister who either is or had been married to Peter Norton of Norton Utilities. May the numbers of these AA women also continue to grow!"


These "nothing but a BM" zombies best consider these discussions because their behavior will eventually lead them to the grave.

And it's irresponsible and WRONG to behave this way if one has previous children.

Aren't these black Grandmothers and Great Grandmothers burdened enough?

Because they're the ones who will be raising these orphans of the "nothing but a BM" zombies.

Again, my hope is that these discussions will strike a chord with those BW who are just on the verge of crossing over.

The fence sitters.

Information is POWER. And normal unindoctrinated BW have the power RIGHT NOW at their disposal to avoid the sorry fate of these self-loathing "nothing but a BM even if he's a possibly diseased criminal ride or die" lunatics.

Felicia said...

NEWSFLASH

Halima and readership,

I usually don't post these horror show like news reports - because the atrocities have already occurred, thus we are helpless to stop them - and for the fact that they will unfortunately continue to happen for as long as BW continue their suicidal behavior by associating with damaged males.

But, I had to make an exception this one time because it perfectly illustrates the outcome of BW continuing to debase themselves by getting involved with DBRBM criminals.

Bedford Heights marriage counselor is stabbed to death and her husband is accused of aggravated murder

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2010/07/
4-year-old_boy_leads_police_to.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Tonya Hunter made a career out of counseling troubled marriages and families, but her own short marriage to a repeat felon went violently out of control and ended with her husband accused of stabbing her to death.
Hunter, 42, founder of the Bedford Heights marriage and family counseling service Success 1, died of multiple stab wounds Sunday night. Someone dropped her 4-year-old son on a street corner, police said, but the boy later led officers to his mother's body in the family's garage.


VIDEO

http://www.newarkadvocate.com/article/
20100727/UPDATES01/100727006

Felicia said...

CORRECT VIDEO...

http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/
local_news/cleveland_metro/Marriage-counselor-stabbed-to-death,-husband-arrested

MUST SEE SMH

Anonymous said...

Bellydancer. I don't think that it is a good idea to post articles from an anti-black hate site like American Renaissance.

Bellydancer said...

Anonymous said...
Bellydancer. I don't think that it is a good idea to post articles from an anti-black hate site like American Renaissance.


The original article was posted on The Economist website but is no longer available to read unless you purchase the article.
Was that your only concern about the article, where I took it from?

Ecomimist article:
http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2010/04/sex

Robynne said...

@ Bellydancer,

I agree with that anon's comments. I did a quick perusal of the site and saw that it was basically a white supremacist website. You don't want to generate clicks and traffic to that website by linking article from there. That's how they make money - by site visits. I don't think I want to generate feed and traffic - and hence money for white supremacists. Just saying. I don't know if the article is hosted elsewhere for free - but I'd rather pay the Economist than go there again.

This was OT I know, don't mean to derail but most BWE bloggers would agree that it's not wise to direct traffic to hate sites.

Anonymous said...

We need to stay away from the jailbirds because of the HIV virus that is RAVAGING OUR COMMUNITY whats left of it. We need to be the first women to say no sex because thats the only way to stop it. Condoms are false security because if they were that good, we wouldnt need other forms of birth control. Its playing 'Russian Roulette' in 2010

Anonymous said...

Girls, please view this story about a woman pursuing her PhD, who was featured on Fox News as a contributor, owned her own marriage counseling practice was killed by a man way beneath her. She met him at an anger management class. These black women just kill me marrying beneath themselves!!!!!! This is so sad....

http://www.bvblackspin.com/2010/07/28/marriage-counselor-stabbed-to-death-by-her-husband/

Anonymous said...

I dont usually get so emotionally wrapped in these stories but my heart is pretty heavy right now because it relates to this particular blog entry. I am really sad about this one. God bless her soul...

Anonymous said...

this is just very sad,sad,sad case of bw needing some real help cuz if they think that this is their only choosing of men in this world then this really is a cry for help.

Anonymous said...

I think its starting to change: I went to the fair the other day, and I've seen MORE BLACK WOMEN with white men lately, and least 7 different couples or more and the're the DARK SISTERS also, so, ladies if the black men think youre too dark, the white men WILL go out with you if your willing. Don't let colorism get you down, within the black community. (be sure that you vet the white men and marry 'across' not down)

Anonymous said...

While I was shopping I was noticed this 20something bw and to my surprised her date was a 29something wm the thing is I would not have guessed she was into wm.
So much for sterotyping people.

Good for her.

a.

Anonymous said...

aren't black women being locked up at alarming rates just for being associated with criminal males?